Best way to prevent vaccine side effects (before taking the jab)?

  • Best way to prevent vaccine side effects (before taking the jab)?

     nena updated 2 months, 1 week ago 13 Members · 18 Posts
  • Frodo

    Member
    July 1, 2021 at 1:30 am

    What may be the best way to reduce the risk of having side effects of the vaccines? Many people are reluctant to take the vaccine but feel compelled for various reasons to take the jab (or want to protect loved ones). What can they do to minimize the risks?

    The I-Recover protocol has been recommended to deal with vaccine side effects, but what about starting with (parts of ) that protocol ( a few days ) before having the inoculation and continueing afterwards for another few days, even if you don’t have any symptoms? Some of the ingredients in the protocol are off the counter medicines or supplements that are not hard to get by, such as vitamin C, zink, vitamin D, Quercetin, Omega-3 and melatonin. Ivermectin may be harder to get by, but still possible.

    Obviously you don’t want to include something that might increase the risk. Other measures that have been suggested are having an antibody test and having a good night’s rest before.

  • kevint

    Member
    July 1, 2021 at 8:56 am

    if you believe the s spike production by the mrna vaccines is causing the vaccine side effects

    it has been known since 2005 that the s spike upregulates cox-2 so please see

    https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3646583

  • Square-James

    Member
    July 1, 2021 at 2:50 pm

    You could take Ivermectin, Pepcid AC, etc. This might reduce vaccine side-effects, but not 100% of the time. I am one such example. I was already doing the full COVID prevention suite when I took my first Moderna jab. I had a skin rash condition that lasted a week. I thought I was managing it well, so I proceeded to the second jab while still doing the same COVID prevention suite. This time I had a rash that turned to a bruise. Most importantly I developed Post-vaccine inflammatory syndrome at 4th week. Persistent allergic symptoms that do not go away.

  • Frodo

    Member
    July 3, 2021 at 1:03 pm

    I let my wife take vitamin C, Zink, Vitamin D and Quercetin, before and after her 2nd jab, which she got yesterday and sofar she is fine, thanks God. I am ready to give her some Ivermectin , in case she would get worse though. According to FLCCC:s I-RECOVER protocol quercetin is a mast cell stabilizer. Alpha lipoic acid might be helpful as well, to deal with vaccine side effects, since it (according to Webmd.com) “seems to help prevent certain kinds of cell damage in the body”.
    I myself belong to one of the control groups – I don’t plan to get the vaccine, since I most likely had covid in March 2020. Luckily I had managed to get hold of some chloroquine phosphate in advance, and it relieved my symptoms fairly quickly.

  • McIver

    Member
    July 6, 2021 at 11:53 am

    I haven’t taken any jab yet but I’m planning to get one because I’m planning to travel soon and a vaccine passport will be required. This is the only reason why I’m taking the jab but still scared the hell out of me on the side effects. Here’s what I’m taking to prep and will continue taking even after the jab. Vitamin D (4,000 IU), Vitamin C (1000 mg), N-Acetyl-Cysteine (NAC) 500mg, Probiotic, Melatonin (10mg) and B12 (I’m on a plant-based diet). This protocol should be enough to boost my immune system. I’m more interested in NAC as there are some studies against COVID-19. Also, it helps to detox your body from metals and other toxins from vaccines. It helps your body produce glutathione which is your own body’s antioxidant powerhouse.

    • AndroAsc

      Member
      July 9, 2021 at 1:12 pm

      I may be suffering from vaccine side effect, but I thought the argument was that in these cases it’s an over active immune system (mostly young healthy people) that causes it? So wouldnt supplementing with Vit D, C, B12 which boost the immune system make it worse?

      • NThinker7

        Member
        July 10, 2021 at 6:01 am

        From my understanding Vitamin D is important to keep the immune system in check. “Vitamin D promotes regulatory or suppressor T-cell populations with the capacity to inhibit inappropriate immune responses that cause disease”. So it helps the immune system to not overeact and unneccessarily kill healthy cells. And Vitamin C reduces inflammation and might play a role in reducing binding to the spike protein. Vitamin B12 is important to take on a plant based diet.

    • rud

      Member
      August 5, 2021 at 12:41 am

      You may want to try and ensure that no particular part of your body is fighting anything, due to physical stress etc. I’ve had a debilitating experience where I couldn’t get out of bed and stand up, but had been fine the day before except for feeling something coming on. The odd thing that struck me was that the pain areas just happen to be the same areas where I had recently over done it, like my left shoulder, but not the right one. This went on for months. After many blood test it ended up being a notify-able disease caused by the Ross River virus. As mRNA vaccines travel throughout the body it could similarly enter cells that are in a repair phase selectively and really hammer these and cause severe side effects as a severe localised immune response. Interestingly there’s nothing on this subject on the internet.

  • NThinker7

    Member
    July 9, 2021 at 5:35 am

    My long term girlfriend who is only 22 and completly healthy was unfortunately pressured into taking the jab (Moderna). I gave her NAC, Vitamin D, Quercetin and Zink for the first shot. Furthermore our usual Vitamin B complex, DHA/EPA (Algae), Iodine (Kelp) and Magnesium/Calcium. She is also mostly on a plant based diet and we tried to keep it extra clean for the 3 weeks after the jab to limit inflammation and maximixe detox. Also lots of Pineaplle for Bromelain.

    She still did develop a Covid Arm which was painfull but bearable. She had a rash 3 days after at the injection side that dissapeared 2 days later and came back on day 10 and dissapeared 5 days later again. (It might came back after stopping Quercetin?) She also had a migraine on day 9 but probably unrelated.

    The second shot is now coming up. From reading up on Immunology I am worried sick about an overly aggressive Immune response since also her adaptive immune system now has been primed. I don’t want the antibodies, cytotoxic T-Cells and NK-killer cells to possibly wreak havoc on her ovaries, spleen and bone marrow… We are thinking about dopping Quercetin and giving her Tylenol (Paracetamol) which has to be shown to “suppress immune function to antigens” but also lowered the antibodies to 26 % in a study when given prior (or probably shortly after) the shot (Hep B). https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4045752/#pone.0098175-Sallusto1

    I am just worried about the hepatoxicity of Tylenol and if it will have any detrimental effect on the clearance of the LNP? And I guess that cells that are expressing the spikes should and cannot be prevented to be killed anyways right? There was a video from Doctor Mike Hansen on Youtube of a woman how took (possibly high doses of) Tylenol after the vaccine and died of liver failure so thats scary. I am quite sure though that the hepatoxisity of Tylenol is neutralised when given with NAC and we are only thinking on giving her a small dose of 500mg a couple of hours before and after the jab. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26250417/

    Also a friend who works in a hospital took Tylenol before and after the jab and did comparatively well and I guess she was advised to do so. What are your thoughts? Should we stay with the first regimen or add in Tylenol? Any thoughts are greatly appreciated.

    • Square-James

      Member
      July 9, 2021 at 3:54 pm

      Since your girlfriend had a rash reaction to the first jab, then it is an indication that the second jab will have a more severe reaction.

      What I know about Tylenol is that it reduces pain sensing, but it is not an anti-inflammatory medication.

      My tele-medicine doctor said to me that he can treat my symptoms, but the jab cannot be undone once it occurs.

      • NThinker7

        Member
        July 10, 2021 at 6:07 am

        Thank you @square-james . I know that is what I keep telling her but the coercion is too strong, it’s beyond frustrating.

        I wish you all the best for your health and that your symptoms will eventually fade! Did you take the second one in the same arm or did you switch and retrospective what do you think is best? It was in the left arm because she is right handed. But I am thinking that there might be a stronger reaction if it is the same arm so that we should switch. On the other hand it would be worse if something happens to the right arm.

        Maybe we should add in Tylenol and still stay with the anti-inflammatory Quercetin. Did anyone else have any experience with Tylenol?

        • jdm33

          Member
          July 10, 2021 at 9:29 am

          Before the second shot, considering the reaction with the first shot, it is not too late to look at alternatives, like legal approaches. One way is to ask the employer sign a liability form in the event that his enforcement of an experimental vaccine leads to serious health consequences, which he would then be held responsible. You can find such a form here, under ‘Forms to Employers requiring Experimental Covid Vaccines’ here: Vaccines & The Law – America’s Frontline Doctors (americasfrontlinedoctors.org) . If he refuses to sign she can refuse the vaccine and if he fires her, she can tell him that she intends to sue him for discrimination in a Human Rights court….it may not need to go this far. this may be enough for him to back off. If he agrees to sign, then what is needed is to provide all the evidence on adverse events and expert opinions about the vaccines to support her reluctance to take it and say she will have no choice but to have all of this be brought up in court for her own defence. If you are in Canada, Rocco Galati, takes care of such cases and he is excellent; again, you may just need to mention this possibility so that this may deter the employer from signing and it may not have to go that far….the employer is likely very concern about clients or other employees or himself getting covid…they also need to be made aware that the vaccine is not the solution…the science behind it is very poor and all that is said about covid vaccines is orchestrated by BigPharma and just propaganda…the canadiancovidcarealliance.org has all the information required. People who have been vaccinated can still get covid, this has been well documented. It also keeps people from doing what they should for real protection which is strengthening their immune system, exactly how you are doing it….

          • Theordore

            Member
            August 8, 2021 at 1:18 pm

            jmd33’s input is very helpful, especially now that The Generals are in full flight way from their mantra about how they will prevent infection and how “fully vaccinated” persons can now return to the life they knew. The manufacturers’ frantic work on new booster shots just a few months after the first shots sends to us a message they cannot block in any way concerning those first shots! Their credibility is palpably ‘on the ropes’, and they know it.

            The Generals are right in their worry that the something will crop up and overwhelm the formal health care services, and their push to have ‘everybody’ vaccinated to block that unknowable something is understandable. However, that is a separate issue from how our individual bodies will react and what we should do to prepare for a bad reaction.

            They do not dare discuss this issue in public; because it will surely hurt the vitally importantly marketing campaign (a Holy War). So it is up to grass-roots developments to help us address this issue in our own lives.

  • MerlinT

    Member
    August 7, 2021 at 4:37 pm

    I recently came across a study of Nigella Sativa, aka “black seed oil”:
    “There is growing evidence from modeling studies that thymoquinone, an active ingredient of Nigella sativa, more commonly known as the fennel flower, can stick to the COVID- 19 virus spike protein and stop the virus from causing a lung infection.”
    The study is summarized with a link here:
    https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-08-treatment-covid-infection.html

    Personally, I caught the virus in April 2020 and had serious long-haul symptoms until October. I researched obsessively and took everything that seemed plausible. Many things helped, but I was still ill. What finally got me healthy again was a combination of black seed oil and high-dose vitamin E. Vitamin E is good at preventing and healing blood clots, for example I’ve seen recommendations to take E before long plane trips to prevent deep vein thrombosis. And if bso bonds with the spike protein, it makes sense that it would be helpful in preventing vaccine reactions caused by the spike protein. Personally, if I had to receive the vaccine, I would add it to the stack.

  • MiTsi

    Member
    August 9, 2021 at 5:08 pm

    High doses of vitamin C, has been used to vaccines reaction. Much higher doses than typical 1000mg or 2000mg.

    Antihistamines like Famotidine, might be useful.

    • NoAccident

      Member
      August 12, 2021 at 9:47 am

      YouTube won’t let anyone say vitamin C will help with the inflammation caused by covid, but they will let JAMA say it prevents sepsis https://youtu.be/N2yzJJy_iYE

  • nena

    Member
    August 15, 2021 at 3:10 pm

    I am NOT a medical practitioner. If any doctors or researchers can weigh in on the following, it would be very helpful! Thank you in advance:

    PRIOR TO:

    To test for propensity toward vaccine induced clotting:

    https://www.sciencenews.org/<wbr>article/covid-vaccine-blood-<wbr>clot-immune-astrazeneca-<wbr>johnson-johnson). Also: https://www.nejm.org/<wbr>doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2105385

    <font color=”#000000″>Also good to test for: </font>inflammatory markers ESR, CRP, ferritin as well as vit d and zinc. C-19 Antibody test

    protocol to start 1 month before:

    https://c19protocols.com/wp-<wbr>content/uploads/2021/05/COVID-<wbr>Vaccination-Side-Effect-<wbr>Reducing-OTC-Medicines-and-<wbr>Nutraceuticals.pdf

    At the end, info on mitigation: https://<wbr>niapurenaturecom.wordpress.<wbr>com/2021/02/15/how-covid-19-<wbr>vaccines-may-destroy-the-<wbr>lives-of-millions-2/

    Summary:

    Glycine

    molecular hydrogen tablets

    one-fourth teaspoon of sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) or potassium bicarbonate in water a few times a day.

    B complex

    the existing FLCCC protocol: https://<wbr>covid19criticalcare.com/covid-<wbr>19-protocols/

    Interferon 1: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.<wbr>gov/pmc/articles/PMC7130854/

    antii-spike protein:

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.<wbr>gov/34100279/

    in case of clots (J&J) – AFTER

    https://brighterworld.<wbr>mcmaster.ca/articles/new-<wbr>treatment-demonstrated-for-<wbr>people-with-vaccine-clots/

  • nena

    Member
    August 15, 2021 at 3:28 pm

    Also – to prevent blood clots, I wonder if this may be helpful (and a good alternative to aspirin for those w/contraindications)?

    https://holisticprimarycare.net/topics/vitamins-a-supplements/pycnogenol-nattokinase-combo-prevents-in-flight-venous-thrombosis/

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