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Why has Ivermectin not been approved for the treatment of Covid-19?
- MemberApril 9, 2021 at 1:32 pm
With the growing body of evidence from around the world, why has the CDC, NIH, WHO and others not approved this widely test treatment?
- MemberApril 12, 2021 at 4:40 am
1) Everyone seems to focus on the fact that the pharmaceutical industry has an incentive to eliminate cheap generic competition to their expensive new patentable therapeutics. That is correct but it is the least of your worries. There are much more powerful forces arrayed against Ivermectin.
2) The government and medical establishment has a strong incentive to deny or at least delay any acknowledgment of a practical therapeutic because that might threaten the vaccination program in two ways: (i) it might increase the resistance to vaccination; (ii) it would remove the justification for accelerated approval of the vaccines. Unfortunately, this is a misplaced worry. People forget that the primary goal is to reduce hospitalization and mortality associated with COVID-19 while eventually allowing herd immunity. If a combination of therapeutics and vaccination can reduce hospitalization and death most efficiently and quickly, then we shouldn’t be concerned if vaccination rates are slowed. After all, a COVID-19 infection contained by therapeutics, like Ivermectin, is essentially a live and cheap vaccination. But for those who believe in the religion of only vaccination, Ivermectin is heresy. That’s why we have scientists supporting Ivermectin, like the FLCCC, who are all PRO-vaxxers, being smeared as anti-vaxxers.
3) There are powerful political forces that want to keep the country in lockdown and preserve the concentration of emergency powers at the federal, state, and municipal level. If you have vaccines and a good drug to cover both unvaccinated people and virus variants, how can you be the CDC director and tell everyone that you have a sense of “impending doom”. Thus, good cheap therapeutics pose a threat to their ability to use the pandemic emergency to pursue their political agenda. These forces will try to muzzle or cancel you, if your pursuit of therapeutics threatens this agenda. Look at how BigTech has been censoring videos on alternative therapeutics because it is “disinformation” (including Senate testimony by Dr. Pierre Kory of the FLCCC). Look at how the only Ivermectin paper the media has publicized is the JAMA article. Don’t underestimate the determination and reach of these forces!
- MemberApril 12, 2021 at 9:54 am
You may be right, but a part of me wants to believe in the good of America. Over 500k Americans have died. How do you justify any political or money oriented agenda in the face of that?
- MemberAugust 4, 2021 at 8:52 pm
Those that are pulling the strings – The Elite Class – have a very evil of agenda of Eugenics, Power, Control and Greed. They actually want to depopulate the earth. Research the Georgia Guidestones and Bill Gates.
- MemberApril 22, 2021 at 6:58 pm
I am currently living in Mexico and my doctor friend was able to get me 4 boxes of 4 pack Ivermectin. I am using for prevention as far as I know. No side effects.
I now cut back on dosage to 1 ea 6 mg to 2 ea 6mg Ivermectin weekly. May cut back further.
I equated Ivermectin’s status to hydroxychloroquine – old generic effective inexpensive
- MemberApril 22, 2021 at 11:33 pm
Ivermectin in vitro is probably the most effective antiviral on the planet, with a 5,000 reduction. Hydroxychloroquine is only slightly effective as antiviral.
- MemberApril 22, 2021 at 7:15 pm
Got to love Mexico – if you have money you can pretty much get whatever you need.
- MemberAugust 3, 2021 at 7:55 pm
If it hasn’t yet been deleted by YouTube, Trialsite News recently facilitated a debate between Dr. Kory and Dr. Luis Garegnani on the subject of Ivermectin . What seems to have prompted this discussion is an opinion paper written by Dr. Garegnani in a BMJ journal in February this year . As a debate it seemed quite one-sided, but I think it provides an interesting glimpse at the role being played by some in the scientific community in what seems an unreasonable resistance to Ivermectin.
This interview left me with a variety of thoughts which I haven’t managed to collate – but here are some impressions. Dr. Garegnani didn’t seem anywhere near as well informed on the subject as Kory – and although we shouldn’t judge a scientific discussion as a boxing match, in my opinion Garegnani seemed to be completely outclassed and out of his depth. More significant though was a deeper difference between the two which I find difficult to describe – I’m tempted to call it a generation gap, or a mismatch of values and priorities. Garegnani seemed to view the topic purely as a question of theory and methodology (although to be fair that may be his speciality), and appeared unmoved even after numerous compelling points made by Kory. In contrast, Kory appears much more pragmatic, much more experienced and well-informed, and more passionate about saving lives. Of course these differences do not necessarily prove one position to be correct, but I’ll let you judge this conversation for yourself.
- MemberAugust 3, 2021 at 8:02 pm
The Pierre Kory interview with Dr. Luis Garegnani
- MemberAugust 3, 2021 at 8:47 pm
No accountability. The moment hospitals and doctors start getting rated for their COVID-19 outcomes I believe their priorities would change! I would like to sort all of the hospitals by COVID-19 success rates. I am not clinical but would think clinical measures for Avg days hospitalized, days on vent, oxygen at discharge and mortality rate would be a start. Are these measures available anywhere?
- MemberAugust 8, 2021 at 6:30 pm
A merit-based ranking system, is a great idea. I think hospitals have such a system, but have no idea how they work. Inclusion of Covid success, would be great.
- MemberAugust 8, 2021 at 8:19 pm
As I was driving my mother to the ER for COVID a few months ago, I tried to research at least who would be willing to use Ivermectin with no avail. Overall hospital rankings was all that was available. The COVID-19 outcome rankings would have helped tremendously!