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Ivermectin or Fluvoxamine for Outpatient Treatment of COVID-19
- MemberApril 21, 2021 at 5:58 pm
Ivermectin or Fluvoxamine for Outpatient Treatment of COVID-19<div>
Very interesting that Ivermectin saved the most lives in hospital patients and fluvox had the best early effects on outpatients. Fluvox in video starts around 5 minutes. I’m waiting for both of them together, this had one or the other in different studies not one vs other.
It was great to see in my medscape email.
- OrganizerApril 24, 2021 at 7:57 am
No need to wait. Docs in US and India have given the IVM+FLV to hundreds of patients and results are uniformly superb; much better than IVM alone. There are no interactions between the drugs.
In the US for exapmle, Miguel Antonatos, MD and Syed Haider are two docs in the US that now prescribe the combo on a regular basis.
Amol Kothalkar in India started on the combo a month ago, has virtually 100% success rate, and wrote a big article about it in the local newspaper and now half the docs in his city are now using the combination.
- MemberApril 28, 2021 at 8:23 pm
Thanks, Steve. For all you do.
I was already taking about half the meds listed at c19early.com before the pandemic. I’ve added IVM, and am following the new FLCCC guidance (to take it WEEKLY – updated on April 26, 2021). If you ever need a favor, it would be an honor.
ALL: I’ve been itching to set up a table in front of San Francisco city hall or a SF hospital and offer ivermectin (and fluoxetine (or if I had it, fluvoxamine)) to all comers – prepared to go to jail and argue that there’s an emergency and I’m a medic… basically to garner publicity – even though I could lose. I haven’t done it because I would want help to ensure I got significant publicity – media attention, friends recording everything. And it’s less urgent/viable now that vaccines are available. Although still not to kids. I’d be doing it for everyone’s favorite cause – “for the children”.
- MemberJune 14, 2021 at 1:58 pm
Steve,I currently take fluoxetine- a similar anti-depressant to fluvoxamine. Is there published evidence using fluoxetine for a COVID treatment with IVM?Thanks for any insight you can provide.
- MemberJuly 5, 2021 at 10:10 pm
There are retrospective studies indicating Fluoxetine could be beneficial during a COVID infection. What is lacking is a prospective controlled medical trial of Fluoxetine. As you you know, Steve Kirsch helped to set up and pay for such a trial of Fluvoxamine.
- MemberJuly 5, 2021 at 10:14 pm
With all of the negative evidence accumulated for fluoxetine, why would you ever use it?
Suicide and homicide rates are unacceptable.
Have not studied fluvoxamine, but I assume it is different, and would be more different if taken only weekly. What is the recommended dosing with Ivermectin.?
- MemberAugust 31, 2021 at 2:44 pm
re: “With all of the negative evidence accumulated for fluoxetine, why would you ever use it? Suicide and homicide rates are unacceptable”
I highly doubt with extreme short term use fluoxetine is going to cause homicide or suicide. I would assume any of those kind of rare risks come from medium to long term use. A typical COVID case patient would take fluoxetine for 7, 10, or 14 days. I am not anti-Fluvoxamine, but fluoxetine is certainly an option for very short term Covid treatment.
- MemberJuly 5, 2021 at 10:17 pm
What’s the does of fluvoxetine used in conjunction with IVM? I know IVM is recommended by Dr. Kory for long Covid, would you use FLV also? Any evidence it improves recovery? Dose?
Dr. Victor Alpher
- MemberJuly 8, 2021 at 5:04 pm
The drug is fluvoxamine and the dose is 50mg twice daily for 10 – 14 days per FLCCC Alliance.
- MemberJuly 27, 2021 at 3:27 pm
Where can I buy Ivermectin online?
- MemberAugust 3, 2021 at 10:30 am
I would recommend finding America’s Front Line Doctors online. Fill out the medical history and request a consult ($90). If the doctor reviews and doesn’t need to contact you, they will call it in to a pharmacy in your state. In my case, I did have a 30 minute conversation with the prescribing doctor. The Rx did not go to Kavroo in Florida, but to a Pharmacy in Arlington, Texas. I was able to get it Fedex. Hydroxychloroquine can be taken 1 per week as a prophylactic. If you are ill, Ivermectin dose is based on .2 mg/kg for 3 days, plus 3 days of 250 Azithromycin b.i.d. I am not a medical doctor, so I would go through their process to be sure you get it right, but it is the only way I know you can get a packet to have on hand, if you need it. I did get a response here to use http://www.indiaMART.com, but I have no experience with their
procedures, availability, quality, or delivery internationally.
- MemberAugust 6, 2021 at 10:21 pm
Thank you so much!!
- MemberAugust 3, 2021 at 10:31 am
Hello, I left an extensive response below your question in a response to JohnGault42. Thanks!
- MemberAugust 9, 2021 at 6:23 pm
Do you know any doctors prescribing this protocol in AU yet?
Things are getting so crazy here.
Lockdowns all over the place.
I thought you might like the contacts of 3 senior medical advisors here in AU.
( the expert proffs who are advising the TGA here in Australia )
Maybe if you guys get in touch they might answer you or agree to be interviewed?
[email protected] ( he was pro ivermectin research )
[email protected] – from our Covid Task Force
[email protected] – advisor
[email protected] – PR women at Covid Task Force
Also, have you seen this doco yet. It’s pretty good. And sums up everything we are fighting for Plus it’s an easier watch than the countless hours of youtubes videos etc.
My email is [email protected]
If I can help I am happy to volunteer my time I am an ex senior Leo Burnett advertising creative.
Got lots of activism poster ideas like this one. I can send you if you wish.
Or happy to come up with more ideas for you on a set breif.
- MemberJuly 1, 2021 at 5:11 pm
CBS Evening News with Norah O’Donnell aired on July 1, 2021 said that rural communities are buying invermectin gel from feed stores and putting it on crackers to prevent them from getting Covid 19 in lieu of getting the shot. They told the viewers that this medication is for horses and not for people. They warned not to take it because it is not approved.
- MemberJuly 1, 2021 at 5:57 pm
I have taken Ivermectin horse paste for over 8 months now. No side-effects.
- MemberJuly 5, 2021 at 10:21 pm
Rural people would certainly know about Ivermectin paste, used to deworm horses. As for the dose, I wonder how accurate their paste on crackers has been…but on the other hand, they are rarely in crowds, and live in well-ventilated areas generally–which is a plus for avoiding Covid.
- MemberJuly 6, 2021 at 4:31 pm
It is good to squeeze out the measured dose of horse paste onto a spoon. This keeps the syringe clear of food particles. Take Ivermectin with food to increase its absorption. Recap the syringe and store it away in a cool place.
- MemberAugust 3, 2021 at 12:13 am
Question Does fluvoxamine, a selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor and σ-1 receptor agonist, prevent clinical deterioration in outpatients with acute coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19)?
<strong style=”font-family: inherit; font-size: inherit;”>Findings In this randomized trial that included 152 adult outpatients with confirmed COVID-19 and symptom onset within 7 days, clinical deterioration occurred in 0 patients treated with fluvoxamine vs 6 (8.3%) patients treated with placebo over 15 days, a difference that was statistically significant.
- MemberAugust 3, 2021 at 6:49 pm
FLCCC recommends fluvoxamine along with Ivermectin in one of the protocols. However I am already taking a ssri (viibryd) so cannot take fluvoxamine. Any recommendations?
- MemberMay 1, 2021 at 11:18 am
OTOH, I’m glad this was (I presume) on TV.
OTOH, In the context of this thread, I think this video does more harm than good.
The data at https://ivmmeta.com , starting with the lead photo, would be more appropriate.
Steve Kirsh has essentially offered to bet you 1 million dollars there’s enough data for fluvoxamine.
The data at https://c19early.com , starting with the lead charts, shows the relative strength of the evidence to date for ivermectin and fluvoxamine (and other interventions).
Steve is right -there’s enough data for fluvoxamine- AND the weight of the evidence for ivermectin is FAR greater.
[Edit: Hmm how did you embed those videos? Does this site support html in posts? c19early.com = testing. Also added https:// to the domain names above…]
- MemberMay 17, 2021 at 7:36 am
What does she mean it is not used in people. It’s used all around the world as treatment????
- MemberMay 29, 2021 at 8:32 pm
Very poor analysis of that highly flawed junk study JAMA chose to publish.
Note that both arms of the study produced remarkably less symptoms than expected. Because they allowed people who had recently been taking IVM into the placebo group! I am not talking about them finding that some in the placebo arm were accidently given IVM. Were there other we do not know about? We do not know. But we do know that the rules they created for the study were to allow those who had been taking IVM more than 5 days earlier were to be allowed into the placebo group. Evidence clearly shows IVM protects far longer than 5 days. It is taken once every 3 months or once each year for river blindness.
Also, IVM is readily available and the placebo used was easily detectable as not being IVM. Anyone who had used IVM in the past could know whether or not they were getting the real thing and if not, could get IVM on the side.
But then the source. Those performing this study were agents of Big Pharma, a company who had its own treatment in development and testing. They had reason not to greenlight a cheap existing alternative
- MemberAugust 3, 2021 at 10:24 am
Thank you in re IndiaMart. Do they deliver to the US? Have you used the site? I know the treatment dose for Hydroxy as a prophylactic; do you know the dose of Ivermectin as a prophylactic (especially as antiviral, but also anti-inflammatory). Dr. VSA