Ivermectin or Fluvoxamine for Outpatient Treatment of COVID-19

  • Ivermectin or Fluvoxamine for Outpatient Treatment of COVID-19

  • Tom Hamilton

    Member
    April 21, 2021 at 5:58 pm

    Ivermectin or Fluvoxamine for Outpatient Treatment of COVID-19<div>

    https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/949663?src=mbl_msp_android&ref=share

    Very interesting that Ivermectin saved the most lives in hospital patients and fluvox had the best early effects on outpatients. Fluvox in video starts around 5 minutes. I’m waiting for both of them together, this had one or the other in different studies not one vs other.

    It was great to see in my medscape email.

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  • SteveKirsch

    Organizer
    April 24, 2021 at 7:57 am

    No need to wait. Docs in US and India have given the IVM+FLV to hundreds of patients and results are uniformly superb; much better than IVM alone. There are no interactions between the drugs.

    In the US for exapmle, Miguel Antonatos, MD and Syed Haider are two docs in the US that now prescribe the combo on a regular basis.

    Amol Kothalkar in India started on the combo a month ago, has virtually 100% success rate, and wrote a big article about it in the local newspaper and now half the docs in his city are now using the combination.

    • Matthew Elvey

      Member
      April 28, 2021 at 8:23 pm

      Thanks, Steve. For all you do.

      I was already taking about half the meds listed at c19early.com before the pandemic. I’ve added IVM, and am following the new FLCCC guidance (to take it WEEKLY – updated on April 26, 2021). If you ever need a favor, it would be an honor.

      ALL: I’ve been itching to set up a table in front of San Francisco city hall or a SF hospital and offer ivermectin (and fluoxetine (or if I had it, fluvoxamine)) to all comers – prepared to go to jail and argue that there’s an emergency and I’m a medic… basically to garner publicity – even though I could lose. I haven’t done it because I would want help to ensure I got significant publicity – media attention, friends recording everything. And it’s less urgent/viable now that vaccines are available. Although still not to kids. I’d be doing it for everyone’s favorite cause – “for the children”.

    • JDM

      Member
      June 14, 2021 at 1:58 pm

      Steve,I currently take fluoxetine- a similar anti-depressant to fluvoxamine. Is there published evidence using fluoxetine for a COVID treatment with IVM?Thanks for any insight you can provide.

      • Square-James

        Member
        July 5, 2021 at 10:10 pm

        There are retrospective studies indicating Fluoxetine could be beneficial during a COVID infection. What is lacking is a prospective controlled medical trial of Fluoxetine. As you you know, Steve Kirsch helped to set up and pay for such a trial of Fluvoxamine.

      • Kaleun

        Member
        July 5, 2021 at 10:14 pm

        With all of the negative evidence accumulated for fluoxetine, why would you ever use it?

        Suicide and homicide rates are unacceptable.

        Have not studied fluvoxamine, but I assume it is different, and would be more different if taken only weekly. What is the recommended dosing with Ivermectin.?

    • Kaleun

      Member
      July 5, 2021 at 10:17 pm

      What’s the does of fluvoxetine used in conjunction with IVM? I know IVM is recommended by Dr. Kory for long Covid, would you use FLV also? Any evidence it improves recovery? Dose?

      Dr. Victor Alpher

      • JDM

        Member
        July 8, 2021 at 5:04 pm

        The drug is fluvoxamine and the dose is 50mg twice daily for 10 – 14 days per FLCCC Alliance.

    • Amberrose

      Member
      July 27, 2021 at 3:27 pm

      Where can I buy Ivermectin online?

  • SayChris1

    Member
    July 1, 2021 at 5:11 pm

    CBS Evening News with Norah O’Donnell aired on July 1, 2021 said that rural communities are buying invermectin gel from feed stores and putting it on crackers to prevent them from getting Covid 19 in lieu of getting the shot. They told the viewers that this medication is for horses and not for people. They warned not to take it because it is not approved.

    • Square-James

      Member
      July 1, 2021 at 5:57 pm

      I have taken Ivermectin horse paste for over 8 months now. No side-effects.

      • JDM

        Member
        July 8, 2021 at 5:07 pm

        Tablets are available from IndiaMart in various dosages.

    • Kaleun

      Member
      July 5, 2021 at 10:21 pm

      Rural people would certainly know about Ivermectin paste, used to deworm horses. As for the dose, I wonder how accurate their paste on crackers has been…but on the other hand, they are rarely in crowds, and live in well-ventilated areas generally–which is a plus for avoiding Covid.

    • Square-James

      Member
      July 6, 2021 at 4:31 pm

      It is good to squeeze out the measured dose of horse paste onto a spoon. This keeps the syringe clear of food particles. Take Ivermectin with food to increase its absorption. Recap the syringe and store it away in a cool place.

  • Matthew Elvey

    Member
    May 1, 2021 at 11:18 am

    OTOH, I’m glad this was (I presume) on TV.

    OTOH, In the context of this thread, I think this video does more harm than good.

    The data at https://ivmmeta.com , starting with the lead photo, would be more appropriate.

    Steve Kirsh has essentially offered to bet you 1 million dollars there’s enough data for fluvoxamine.

    The data at https://c19early.com , starting with the lead charts, shows the relative strength of the evidence to date for ivermectin and fluvoxamine (and other interventions).

    Steve is right -there’s enough data for fluvoxamine- AND the weight of the evidence for ivermectin is FAR greater.

    [Edit: Hmm how did you embed those videos? Does this site support html in posts? c19early.com = testing. Also added https:// to the domain names above…]

  • Didi

    Member
    May 17, 2021 at 7:36 am

    What does she mean it is not used in people. It’s used all around the world as treatment????

  • CoS

    Member
    May 29, 2021 at 8:32 pm

    Very poor analysis of that highly flawed junk study JAMA chose to publish.

    Note that both arms of the study produced remarkably less symptoms than expected. Because they allowed people who had recently been taking IVM into the placebo group! I am not talking about them finding that some in the placebo arm were accidently given IVM. Were there other we do not know about? We do not know. But we do know that the rules they created for the study were to allow those who had been taking IVM more than 5 days earlier were to be allowed into the placebo group. Evidence clearly shows IVM protects far longer than 5 days. It is taken once every 3 months or once each year for river blindness.

    Also, IVM is readily available and the placebo used was easily detectable as not being IVM. Anyone who had used IVM in the past could know whether or not they were getting the real thing and if not, could get IVM on the side.

    But then the source. Those performing this study were agents of Big Pharma, a company who had its own treatment in development and testing. They had reason not to greenlight a cheap existing alternative

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