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We do know Moderna is worse than
Pfizer based on VAERS death rates and the 3.33x higher vaccine dose with
Moderna than Pfizer. Most interestingly, you can see that the US has all but
curtailed administration of Moderna since around May based on this graph here https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/covid-vaccine-doses-by-manufacturer?country=~USA. To not mince words, it seems they realized it’s killing people significantly more than Pfizer. So I think it’s very easy to rule out Moderna.As for J&J vs. Pfizer, it’s pretty hard to say for sure. Pfizer is the only company to release 6 month data from their clinical trial, and these data proved the Pfizer vaccine slightly INCREASES the overall risk of death (15 deaths vaccine vs. 14 deaths placebo), rather than saving lives. See Pfizer’s preprint article here https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.28.21261159v1. In terms of J&J, you have to remember there is a major widespread bias against that vaccine, for many possible reasons. So last time I checked, the VAERS death rate for J&J was somewhat worse than Pfizer (but better than Moderna), although certainly there is a bias towards more VAERS reporting for J&J because even doctors and other health care workers may be genuinely suspicious of it since they’ve heard many negative things in the media etc. AstraZeneca is a similar vaccine to J&J, but it seems to have a worse safety record than J&J, and some European data comparing Pfizer and AstraZeneca deaths look equivocal (not clear which is worse). So it may well be that J&J is safer than Pfizer (and certainly Moderna), but we don’t have adequate data right now, J&J’s 6-month clinical trial data should give us an answer.
I’m sure it varies by employer, but I wonder what the typical rules are about getting foreign WHO-approved vaccines like Sinopharm or Sinovac (if you were willing to travel to Mexico or somewhere else for that), as all data currently available show that these vaccines DO NOT cause excess deaths unlike the mRNA vaccines. Covaxin has shown that it actually saves lives overall in its clinical trial (5 deaths vaccine vs. 10 deaths placebo), but it’s not WHO-approved yet, I heard it might be soon. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.06.30.21259439v1
Most of all why not wait as long as you can, see how things pan out, and then only get the vaccine once it is crystal clear that you will be fired otherwise.

